前几天有人讨论计算神经科学,偶来说两句八。当然理论神经科学和计算神经科学含义并不一致,不过都没有太严格的定义,不多说。
1 入门教程 (当然只是偶认为比较好的一本,各人背景不同,要具体看乐)
theoretical neuroscience, Dayan and Abbott 这本书在amazon.com买50$,偶当时找乐一个小网站,30$搞定,网上也有全文下载的地方。
这本书对theoretical neuroscience 介绍的比较全面,但要想真正明白每一章的内容,似乎并不容易,反正偶只是明白乐一点点。 theoretical neuroscience 的内容很多,可以先看看着本书,看看有没有自己喜欢以及能做的部分。
Abbott 在univ of brandies.主页上有习题 http://people.brandeis.edu/~abbott/。不过有些习题并不好做,有的题目极其无聊,无聊的题目,偶一怒之下,一概没做,所以最后只拿个A- 的说(上学期选的这们课)。
生物部分,自然是看 principles of neural science. 不知道第5 版出来没,不过偶前老板去年8月份已经把第五版他负责的一章交给kandel乐
2 偶大概了解的几个方向
从切入的学科说
a) differential equations and dynamical systems学过一点电生理的,都知道Hodgkin and Huxley 的经典工作,发在52年的J. physiology上的。有空可以读一下原文,非常cool. 不过有一点要注意,那篇文章中,电流的正负方向和现在通常定义的相反,所以一般现在复述他们的工作时也就用乐现在的定义。在看原文时,不要觉得奇怪。
由於微分方程可以极好的描述动作电位,所以可以从数学上来看。大抵是可以用关于limit cycles, bifurcations, chaos,的一些结果 来做一些关于synchrony ,adaptation,
nonlinear oscillations 之类的东西。可以是关于单个neuron 的,也可以是 关于一个neuronal network( 不是neural network)的。
有一本极好的教材,spikes,decisions and actions, by wilson. 很便宜,偶15$买的。wilson 以前在u of Chicago, 现在好像在Canada. wilson 是G. Bard Ermentrout
postdoc 的committee。按Ermentrout 的意思,这是一本很decent 的教材,只是取乐一个莫名其妙的名字。 做这个方向的人,偶知道的是 u of pittsburgh 的 Bard Ermentrout ,boston U 的nancy, etc.
b) EE & physics
这个方向的大牛人,自然是caltech的koch. 他的biophysics of computitions, 几乎是必备书,50$. 想来大家都知道koch,不多说。偶听过他的一次讲座,当时太困,睡着乐,实在是很不好意思的说。
c) statistics
有本很好的书,Spikes: Exploring the Neural Code (Computational Neuroscience) by Fred Rieke , David Warland , Rob deRuytervanSteveninck , William Bialek 。
好像后三个作者都是在NEC的,后来NEC 取消乐一个相关的实验室, 於是大名鼎鼎 Rob deRuytervanSteveninck 便被layoff 乐。:)
当然他是不愁没地方的要的,转身就到Princeton 去做乐教授。这家伙的名字实在是长,要查他的文章,都不知道该用哪个名字,总是查不到 :( 。 听过他的一次讲座,是用果蝇( 或者某种其他的的蝇, not sure, 没听清,:P ) 做视觉编码,电极插下去后,可以连续记录一个星期,想起偶插电极的痛苦,实在是羡慕不已。
偶学过一点点theoretical neuroscience ,只是太笨,也没学明白什么。不过偶大概定乐一下毕业论文的题目, 就认为是解码吧。大概是这样的:
Given a neuron and the stimuli, the spike train can be gotten by the intracellular and extracelluar recording. Now the question is : given the spike train, can we estimate the parameters of the neurons, say, resting potential, threshold, time constant, and the parameters of the stimuli, say, mean, & sd ?The answer is yes if we use the integrate and fire model and if the stimuli are white noises. the methods that I use are maximum likelihood estimation, optimization etc based on that stochastic differential equation.
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HI,
I am sorry I dont know chinese.I am looking for Spikes Exploring the Neural Code Fred Rieke book online.Couldnt find it anywhere.If you have ecopy can you please mail me or share me?
my email id is vandana.p99@gmail.com
Thanks a lot !!
Vandana
感谢您发表您,这是很有益的,说了很多
谢谢你,干得好!这是东西,我得有。
啊!最后我找到了我要找的东西。有时需要这么多的努力,找到有用的信息,即使微小的一块。.
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